MEDWEBMASTERS-L Discussion of cyberMedicine.org Date:
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:40:32 -0600
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From: "Kim Solez, M.D." Kim.Solez@UAlberta.CA
Subject: Re: [MWM-L] http://www.cyber-medicine.org- sharing knowledge between
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Dear Doug:
We have made the three links so obvious now that I can't imagine anyone will not be
able to navigate them! On IE they even change color on mouseover!
The Medical Matrix ratings are explained exactly at:
http://www.medmatrix.org/info/edboard.asp#Star
There might be very valuable WWW sites that one would use for completely different
purposes, but here is the rationale behind their ratings from the link above:
Resource Evaluation
1. DIMENSION / USEFULNESS FOR CLINICAL APPLICATIONS:
The resource enhances the knowledgebase of the target clinician or specialist at the point
of care. Resource documents have current clinical relevance and importance, intellectual
and scientific strength, and clarity of presentation. The prestige of authors and
institutions are good. The documents are strong compared to other web pages under review
in the documents' category. The documents contribute to a balanced picture of medicine.
(1-20 points)
Ranking: 0 4 8 12 16 20
Comment:
2.VERIFIABILITY, CLARITY, AND INTEGRITY: Resource document content is verifiable,
endorsed, dated, current, and referenced. The material is original; the writing is clear;
there is a minimization of bias; conclusions are reasonable and supported by evidence
presented. The effort is ethical. The documents offer a comparison with relevant findings
from other publications; and whenever possible, the medical literature is systematically
reviewed and summarized to assist in the estimate of the strength of the documents'
conclusions. Financial interests are disclosed, whether they are direct or indirect.
(1-10 points)
Ranking: 0 2 4 6 8 10
Comment:
3.EVIDENCE-BASED CRITERIA:
Conclusions are based on studies that are methodologically sound, meet statistical
validity criteria, and are clinically relevant. Conclusions are rated against a "gold
standard" in that they are founded upon randomized trials with appropriate follow-up
and are based on studies that make an independent, blind comparison of tests. (1-10
points)
Ranking: 0 2 4 6 8 10
Comment:
4.MEDIA:
Text, hypertext, or use of multimedia: images, video, sound in the context of the resource
(eg: image database). (1-10 points)
Ranking: 0 1 2 3 4 5
Comment:
5.FEEL/EASE OF ACCESS:
Easy to follow in terms of composition, advanced HTML tools, and integration within a
larger database. Clinical content highlighted, reliability and speed of the link, bytes to
the page. (1-5 points)
Ranking: 0 1 2 3 4 5
Comment:
My history with Medical Matrix is quite simple. I had a dispute with them in 1997
because I thought their listings in nephrology were totally inappropriate. As a
consequence I completely ignored them for three years. But now coming back to them I find
that they have improved a lot and they are the only source at the moment of the sort of
data that appears on their pages spanning all areas of medicine. I have had no contact
with them for three years and that can be well documented, so I consider myself quite an
objective observer!
Best regards. - Kim
We have created just today the WWW site http://www.cyber-medicine.org (note the
hyphen!) devoted to enhancing health uses of the Internet across all areas of medicine. We
invite you to go to the site and react to the information already there by sharing ideas
about innovative approaches using on line resources and the sites you have found most
useful and novel to add to the list. I think there is something of interest to everyone
since we have statistics on every area of medicine. We would welcome input either sent
privately to me or, if the comments of broad general interest, sent to MEDWEBMASTERS-L or
MMATRIX-L . We look forward to hearing from all of you and working with you to make this
new site the best it can possibly be and making things better for all of us!
All the best. - Kim
I would like to point out a couple of things...
1) The links are hard to see. I had to look at the source code to find them. Maybe I'm
just dense....
2) I have found medmatrix.org to be singularly useless. I have asked them countless times
to list my web site, with no response and no action. The sites that are listed are, in my
opinion, usually not even the best ones on the internet. And the ratings? Well, they seem
kind of arbitrary and not particularly accurate. For example, if you look up testicular
cancer, the number one rated site (due to sorting, plus having 5 stars) is the merck
manual. Now the merck manual may be a great resource, but it has about 1 page of
information on testicular cancer. 5 stars? I don't think so. The second site listed is
actually an article written by one of the doctors on my medical advisory board who
happened to have testicular cancer. It is a good article, but it is still a short article
aimed at family doctors. Other sites are far more comprehensive. perhaps I am too
critical, but I would classify close to half the 5 star sites as marginal or just plain
crap. Just look at this 5 star site for an example of "crap":
http://www.sadap.org.za/edl/adult/14.2.asp
I think that the links pages on smaller sites devoted to single diseases or conditions
are far more likely to have carefully evaluated links. It is clear that medmatrix
evaluates sites as a whole, ranks them as a whole, and then applies that ranking to every
damn subject the site covers, even if it covers some only in passing.
....tirade done for now.
Sorry.
Doug Bank
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dougb@comm.mot.com
Motorola Communications Sector
Schaumburg, Illinois
847-576-8207
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